Do you know any christians fighting this or any christians that are kool with these desires? Have you ever been able to effectivly witness to one? Would you like to know how? Personally I live in N.Y there are a lot of homosexual people in manhatten and brooklyn.
And I think the church doesnt always know how to effectivly minister to people like this.
Questions you should answer so I better understand your views
Are you a liberal or conservative christian?
Are you friends with or have you ever had a conversation with someone from the gay/lesbain/bisexual/ or transgendered community...What was that like
Are you an ex-homosexual? If so dont mind dropping your testimony
Personally I am attracted to dudes...I had backslided this month and because of that i had come out of it with not just a lust for guys but also for dudes. But God has healed my heart and as a born-again christian. I am called to use my body as a living sacrifice in responce to Gods mercy. When i first believed I looked at everyone as a soul. But when I backslided the enemy started messing up my thoughts and now how i saw people was distorted I saw them as objects for my plessure rather then sons and daughters of God. But i am sooo hyype now god has healed my heart and renew my mind. So basically this thread was started so people who are gay or straight or know people who are gay...can drop your questions....nd talk about personal experiences.not at all meant to be a hateful thread or an argumentative one..so leave your rants and hate speech at the door. Lol.
Lust is lust it affect the spirit just the same. The church cant say "I dont want this kind of lust! I want that kind" Dont forget all that is in the world is the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye, and the pride of life(1 john 3:16)
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30 replies on this topic
Sarah - 7/1/10 @ 7:01 PM
Okay...
~Conservative Christian.
~Um, I wonder. But if I am/have, they have never come right out and said they are homosexual/bisexual, etc.
~Nope.
Um, okay. I think we need to be accepting of these people--love them, but hate what they do.
Last fall, I worked with two guys who had really low opinions of females, and were slightly off their rockers in regards to sex-stuff. One of them accused me of being gay (or rather, lesbian), simply because I had whispered a secret in my sisters ear.
I dont know if this really counts, but yeah. Id like to know how to deal with these sorts of people, because I am sure they are hurting.
@Royal Servant, what a testimony! God is wonderful!
jake - 7/1/10 @ 8:56 PM
I love your boldness. Keep it up. I cant say I have had too much experience here. I have had a little, mostly twisting scripture. God bless, Come back soon Jesus!
Thirst - 7/2/10 @ 12:31 AM
Homosexuals? My relationship with homosexuals is well and truely complicated.
I once had a girlfriend who was bisexual, and we were both ok with that. She wasnt a bad person because of it, but what she did wasnt right either. I didnt get much of chance to debate over it (although I planned to later, our relationship was cut short in an extremely small space of time) but I did get the feel that she didnt know it any different way.
Part of me is very intolerant towards homosexuals and bisexuals, but its like saying rich people are all full of themselves. Do you know them? Can you truely pass judgement?
That brought memories I didnt want to think about... But it was Gods will.
Derrick - 7/2/10 @ 9:26 AM
@ Jake thanks...
@ thirst well Thats understandable...but to truly minister to a gay/bisexual/transgendered/lesbain person is to remember they are just like you. And make sure that everytime you talk to them show them the love of christ. And ask them questions that might cause them to do some kind of introspection and just look within themselves. Because when we start loving one another it takes away the iron curtain that is stopping the gospel from truly being effective.
And to the strongling homosexual I say
"Pray and stay away"
Sarah - 7/2/10 @ 7:36 PM
That makes sense. Im sure its gotta be tough.
One thing I have learned, is most of them cant help it. Its like something from their past (abuse, dominating parent of opposite sex, etc) gives them bad impressions and memories of the opposite sex condition them so they avoid the opposite sex and gravitate toward others of the same sex for friendship and protection.
happy_panda - 7/2/10 @ 8:10 PM
yeah most of them cant help it... im pretty sure they dont choose what they feel x] they do choose how they respond to it. I agree with sarah that its something from their past, because every homosexual that ive talked to has some hurt (not necessarily "big" like abuse... even just a friend problem or something else that seems so "small" but means so much to them) from their past that they need to give to God. I think that the way to minister to them is to introduce them to God who can heal the hurt that was in their past and help them with their desires. They need to turn to God and change the way they think and act, not the other way around x] so just sharing the gospel and showing them Gods love just like Royal Servant said is probably most important =D
the_underdog - 7/2/10 @ 9:02 PM
Hm.
Well, i used to think it wasnt a choice. but, during my couple of years of not walking with him, i found some feelings towards chicks. and i realized it is a choice. i messed up, and was bisexual for awhile. and now that i am back with Him, He has shown me more tolerance for homosexual and bisexual people. it is a daily choice for them, this attraction. i choose not to act upon them. i ask for His strength when i look at a woman the wrong way. He helps me through it all, and soon, i think i wont have those feelings anymore :D they are getting less and less the more i rely on Him and His grace.
but we need to be the ones who love the sinner and not the sin. show them Gods grace. if i saw a hate crime being done, i would do something about it. i have several friends that choose homosexuality, and they know i dont agree with that choice, but i love them as God loves them, nonetheless.
Thirst - 7/2/10 @ 9:40 PM
Royal servant - thats kind of what I was trying to say... We cant pass judgement, because they are as human as we are.
Kristen - 7/3/10 @ 12:08 PM
Lemme ask yall this: when did you decide to go straight?
Kristen - 7/3/10 @ 12:52 PM
"The Bible contains 6 admonishments towards homosexuals and 362 admonishments towards heterosexuals. That doesnt mean that God doesnt love heterosexuals. They just need more supervision." - Lynn Lavner
"Heterosexuality is not normal. Its only common." - from a poster
For all you pro-lifers: "If the fetus you save is gay, would you still fight for its rights?"
"Will God judge me for loving or you for hating?"
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as self evident." - Arthur Schopenhauer (Homosexuality is not a sin. Do your research)
I am a child of God, and my Daddy is proud of His bisexual daughter. :)
Sarah - 7/3/10 @ 1:12 PM
@Kirsten
No one on here has said that we hate homosexuals--only what they do. Homosexuality is a sin, and God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah for that sin. If God had intended homosexuality, He would have created two people of the same sex. If He had intended bisexuality, He would have created four people.
Sarah - 7/3/10 @ 1:14 PM
And I think the others have great answers as well. We have to love everyone, regardless of how they feel about the same/opposite sex. There are different types of love, and here I am talking about friend-to-friend, sibling-to-sibling.
Me - 7/3/10 @ 4:47 PM
I agree with you, they haven"t less value than us and God loves them as much as he loves us, so we have to love them, like we have to love everybody that is in this world (and not in this world :P
Thirst - 7/3/10 @ 5:09 PM
Kirsten, I sympathize for you, mainly because of the testimony I gave earlier in the thread.
I pray that wherever you go, and whatever you do, you are not judged because of your bisexuality.
Derrick - 7/3/10 @ 5:49 PM
@ the under_dog wow thank you for posting this because i have really been tempted to indulge in bisexuality lately...
@ Kristen hii well all i can say is I agree with kristen...and God mentions in the book of 1st john chapeter 3 verse 16 "Do not love the world..For all that is in the world is the lust of the flesh(plesure nd things not pertaining to the holy spirit),the lust of the eye(things you see), and the pride of life(putting your desires before Gods and boastinf about it)" So you cant tell me that bisexuality, homosexuality, transgendered, and lesbianism do not fall in those three catagories.
jake - 7/3/10 @ 6:12 PM
"The Bible contains 6 admonishments towards homosexuals"
That sounds about right. Thats 6 times it says no...
But also we dont hate. Its hard for a Christ follower to stick to their guns and Im proud of all of you for doing it. One thing I have noticed and this will be politically incorrect, however if yall know me, I dont care.
It seems like homosexuality has become an icon and an identity. Its sorta like if all people who cheated on their spouse (Just an example, I understand the differences) united and began to tell the world that it is ok. They make it their identity.
RS is right. I agree.
PutHisBloodOnIt - 7/3/10 @ 6:20 PM
The way I look at it is if the bible says something is wrong even once and never mentions it again I am gonna take it as serious as it mentions another sin 50 times in the bible. Ao whether it mentions it once or 50 times isnt that sin equally as bad in God eyes? Am I correct?
Sarah - 7/3/10 @ 6:31 PM
Yes.
Derrick - 7/3/10 @ 7:48 PM
but what about when the homosexual says not everything in the bible should be trusted since the first five books says stoning people and take people as slaves is ok
Sarah - 7/3/10 @ 7:54 PM
It was okay in that culture. And when God allowed the people to take slaves, I believe He meant (and they probably did begin by) treating the slaves nicely. Slavery as we know it is not, and never has been, condoned by God.
Stoning people? Ive said this before, but Ill say it again. Its capital punishment. We still do it--in a different way. Now we electrocute or hang people--or send them to a firing squad. Whats the difference?
Sometimes some crimes are deserving of capital punishment. When God made that rule, He was not saying that every minor infraction of the law should result in stoning.