is it a sin? why is it, why is it not?
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34 replies on this topic
Cody - 1/24/11 @ 8:37 PM
umm... lol uh... Well, the answer would be yes, it is a sin... It's just like looking at a girl lustfully and what not. you are thinking in that same mindset. It's something for marriage, its all the same stuff. lol I'm sure if this topic doesn't get deleted, somebody will give you some actual scripture.
Rachel Spoon - 2/8/11 @ 9:53 PM
I think it's a sin because it encourages further sexual temptation. When someone masturbates, they're probably thinking about sexual acts with somebody, or something else that stimulates the mind in that way. God wants us to keep our bodies AND our minds pure from sex. If we think about sex, we want it. When we want it, we act towards it. When we act towards it.. who-oa, well hey there. I don't think I've ever found anything SPECIFICALLY about masturbation in the Bible, but it's probably referred to in there somewhere.
Rachel Spoon - 2/8/11 @ 9:54 PM
@ George - Was that really about masturbation? I've always wondered about that... I wasn't sure if God's anger was towards masturbation or because he didn't do his duty to give his... sister-in-law (i think it was his sister-in-law) a child.
Cody - 2/8/11 @ 9:56 PM
@Rachel "God wants us to keep our bodies AND our minds pure from sex."
until marriage lol just saying
Rachel Spoon - 2/8/11 @ 9:59 PM
Haha, well yeah. Definitely until marriage. I was just talking about out of marriage.
Lex - 2/9/11 @ 12:45 AM
@Rachel & Cody:
I am sure you guys know, but sex is a pure act after marriage in God's eyes.
"" @Rachel "God wants us to keep our bodies AND our minds pure from sex."
until marriage lol just saying""
This just sounds like purity is loss as soon as you have sex.
In marriage, sex is completely pure and good :)
As far as masterbation goes, yes it is a sin. When you think of ANYONE with lust, and they are not your spouse, you are commiting adultery, thus breaking the 7th commandment.
Lex - 2/9/11 @ 5:53 AM
"And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the
earth, and that every IMAGINATION OF THE THOUGHTS OF HIS HEART was only evil continually."
Genesis 6:5, KJV
The Lord sees it as wickedness brother, because the thoughts of man's mind are connected to his heart.
Cody - 2/9/11 @ 7:49 AM
@Lex lol yea, that's what I meant, it is thought impure until marriage which then it is pure lol but I'm with you, I think the thought of doing it is just as much of a sin as doing it. Your mind should be as good as your actions.
Rachel Spoon - 2/9/11 @ 4:24 PM
Yeah, the mind is totally linked to the heart. What you think can really guide your actions.
However, is masturbation a sin after marriage? What if you're thinking of your spouse? I've always been unsure about that..
Ariel - 2/9/11 @ 5:48 PM
What makes me sick is that the show The Secret Life of the American Teenager promotes it. What's even worse is that the character Grace, who is made out to be the "Christian teenager", is the one telling people about it and promoting it and saying there's nothing wrong with it. Hollywood needs to get their heads outta their butts.
Rachel Spoon - 2/10/11 @ 7:37 AM
Ugh, well Hollywood has a tendency to promote worldy behavior. It's what people want to hear.
Lex - 2/10/11 @ 11:28 AM
Amen to that >.>
Erica - 2/10/11 @ 11:45 AM
In Matthew 5:28, I don't think it's necessarily whether you look or think about it. When you look at someone, you're thinking about them. I think the focus is on our heart- "has already commited adultery with her in his heart." Proverbs 27:19 says "As water reflects a face, so a man's heart reflects the man." Proverbs 4:23 tells us to "Guard our heart above all else, for it determines the course of your life." I believe that God does not want us to be bound by sexual sins. Romans 13:12-14
Erica - 2/10/11 @ 12:39 PM
Philippians 4:8- "Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things." Like I said before, I think it's more about what's in our hearts. If we are thinking about corrupt things then we will corrupt our hearts. If we are thinking of praiseworthy things then that will show in our hearts. I don't believe that "thinking about a viruous act is just as virtuous as doing it." We are called to put action behind our beliefs. Acting on our virtous thoughts is bringing honor to God. Acting on our corrupt thoughts does not.
GenTLEmEn01 - 2/10/11 @ 7:47 PM
I like the input so far. However I have to disagree. Thinking about doing great things is not doing anything good. If we are going to have a debate about doing GOOD with our thoughts, you could debate that you could be dwelling on the rout you will take and the things you have to do (IE planning out) what you have to do to accomplish God's will, however just thinking about being the next Billy Graham I do not believe to be an act of worship or good. In a similar way, I agree Masterbation is a sin, however it is not at the same level of having sex outside of marriage. My rational behind this is David's punishment in the bible for fornicating. vs no apparent punishment for masterbation
Japlace - 2/10/11 @ 9:25 PM
"however it is not at the same level of having sex outside of marriage" - Gentleman
I dont exactly what you are saying here, but EVERY sin is equal.
"When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clean: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God." - Galatians 5:19-21
GenTLEmEn01 - 2/11/11 @ 4:15 AM
on a fundamental level, yes sin is equal b/c it separates us from god. However, there ARE worse sins than others, and this is depicted in the bible by God punishing people differently for their specific sin.
Rachel Spoon - 2/11/11 @ 7:53 AM
I think any sin is sin. There is no "worse" sin. It may be worse in our eyes, but I think to God, all sin is the same.
Teah - 2/11/11 @ 8:04 AM
@ rachel i agree. God sees all sins as the same, whether murder or stealing something worth less thana dollar, its all just as black in his eyes. Some people don't get that though, thinking there's different levels of sin, but yeah, the Bible says its all the same.. i'm just not sure exactly on where the scripture is that says that..
Teah - 2/11/11 @ 8:29 AM
ok, well on that, i believe that the only reason that is a 'worse sin' is because you're not accepting forgiveness, where as when you accept forgiveness your free, but if you don't.. your sins just stay. it makes sense that that would be the only condemning sin, not accepting JEsus because then you're never fogriven.. so i do believe that, but aside from this, all sins are equal.
no, or maybe. i'm not sure i understand your puzzle. Like a non-christian thats living a 'good' life thats well respected and like and kind all that stuff, verses a christian thats struggling with any number of things? then no. most people probably wouldn't even know that the non-christian was a non-christian. most people won't ask, but if they know that the christian is struggling they'd be like oh.. you poor thing. or ew.
i could have gotten that way wrong... but yeah.