What happened to strong christian men in our culture? More and more I find soft christian men who are soft spoken and sometimes just fairy cakes. How does this glorify God? I know I'm gonna step on some people's toes with this one, but seriously now. what is with this?
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29 replies on this topic
Japlace - 1/13/11 @ 5:56 PM
I know what you are saying, but be careful how you bring this up, brother.
"Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth." - Matthew 5:5
There is nothing wrong with men who are soft spoken, HOWEVER (and i believe this is what you mean in this topic) when men are lacking boldness and are afraid of confrontation, that is when it becomes a issue.
Even Jesus was confrontational (not in the sense of the word we use it today) but He wasnt afraid to stand up for His Father and tell the merchants to leave the temple! He was a man!!
PutHisBloodOnIt - 1/13/11 @ 6:01 PM
I think we need more clarity in what you mean by soft spoken?
Ariel - 1/13/11 @ 6:18 PM
I have a friend, he's 15 and I met him at a bible camp, he is so inspirational. While we were singing in the chapel, he would just raise his hands and move his head and just worship God in front of everyone. That made me want to get to know him even more! I definitely think that guys that are all out for God are the most awesome people ever. Scratch that, ANYONE who goes all out for Christ is just amazing, and we are lucky to have them in our lives!!! I love them to death
GenTLEmEn01 - 1/13/11 @ 7:03 PM
@Ariel. I love people who raise their hands, especially men who raise their hands and BELT IT OUT FOR CHRIST. because they are not ashamed. no, you have taken my message wrongly. I was addressing the great majority of men who are weak in the faith and will not take stands. not only that but small willed men, who are crushed easily as if they have no backbone. I understand some men are shy and some are more outgoing. but JESUS CHRIST RADICALLY ALTERS THE VERY CORE OF YOUR LIFE and if he has not done that then they are not christian, so why do we have so many passive men who claim to know christ who crumble when in affliction, are thin skinned and just downright soft???
PutHisBloodOnIt - 1/13/11 @ 7:11 PM
Well same can be said for women, I don't think this problem is a gender thing but maybe a problem among some believers in general. Maybe this is a problem where you live or just at your church, I don't see how you can make this claim about the majority. Because I see a lot of leaders especially men in the public eye who stand strong for Jesus knowing they will get slammed by media or stars or people on tv shows.
andrea statler - 1/13/11 @ 7:30 PM
I definitely agree with both Ariel and PutHisBloodOnIt because it really isnt a gender thing, its what we call a luke-warm christian. However, I would like to correct Ariel on one thing, the sentence that said, "Anyone who goes all out for Christ is just amazing, and we are lucky to have them in our lives" Blessed is what we are, nd what we always will be the bible does not speak of luck or chance but by the grace of God, things will happen.
I do think that Christians who are more bold about their faith when praising God have a more personable Christ like genuineness, where you could just see the spirit of the Lord dripping off of them and you could walk up to them and ask, "will you pray for me?" without even knowing their name. now THAT is the true work of God!
Ariel - 1/13/11 @ 8:23 PM
you're right, wrong wording. Woops
KingsKid - 1/16/11 @ 3:59 PM
Rev. 3:14-22
Yeah, it is wonderful to see people who will worship God without caring what others think, but just want to please God. We need to be strong for God and raise a voice in these last days.
PutHisBloodOnIt - 1/16/11 @ 5:01 PM
Another thing I wanted to add, is that men in this world who are followers of Christ go gainst the grain everyday!!! Society measures our success by what kind of car we drive, how big our house is and how much money we have, how many women guys sleep with etc.... And when we dont measure up to the worlds definition of success we are looked down on as failures or useless. There is so much pressure on us guys from a day to day basis where everywhere we turn we are tempted by lust from girls dressing skimpy, to commercials selling sex, to even adds and billboards in public. Then we are suppose to provide for our families, in this economy which everything is increasing in price and our paychecks are dropping. Its extremely hard sometimes in this world for us guys when we are tempted by so much. And yet instead of encouraging men of God you post this? Is this how you are gonna help and encourage your brothers? The last thing guys need is to be looked down on by others brothers and sisters. Understand the whole world is against us, the world wants to draw us in slowly. So give a little credit to any followers of christ you know its so hard these days for All of us. And the samething can be said for our incredible women in Christ who have to deal with many of the same problems. Fairycakes? I tell you its so easy to follow the worldly ways but it takes a real man to step up and go against the grain every single day, hour by hour day by day! Now tell me who is the fairy cakes?
Ariel - 1/16/11 @ 5:43 PM
@PHBOI, I actually wrote a blog on how mad I was that girls were dressing so skimpy. In the past few months I've learned that guys are incredibly visual, and it's our job to help them out. Someone commented that we need to stop babying you guys, and that you need to learn to look away. That made me even more angry. So I get where you're coming from. I don't understand completely what guys go through because girls and guys don't think the same way, but I think that you can't tell anyone what to do because you don't know what they go through
PutHisBloodOnIt - 1/16/11 @ 5:51 PM
Yeah guys are extremely visual! alot of girls dont understand how much influence girls have on a guy just by the way they dress. Its tough it really is and thats why us guys appreciate girls who dress appropiate.Besides I think girls look most attractive when they are in a pair of sweats and a hoodie and are comfortable and confident in themselves. And we are not babied one bit, especially these days where sex is everywhere, and some girls keep dressing more and more skimpy. I dont understand how i guy can respect a girl who walks around with their chest hanging out and belly showing squeezing into the smallest size pants possible, I dont get it.
Ariel - 1/16/11 @ 6:53 PM
See, what I don't understand is how guys think that we look best in sweats and a hoodie, hair up and no makeup. I don't get it at all. I've slowly been looking in the mirror and saying, Hey, I don't look that bad without makeup, but definitely not enough to go out in public with nothing on.
But I'm a girl, and I don't even think it looks good to wear so little clothing! At camp, we had a pretty strict dress code, shorts had to have a 3 inch in-seam, no cleavage, no bikinis, etc. But thinking back on it, it's so simple, and it makes so much sense. Most girls dress that way though because they want guys to notice them, but if you dress that way, no one's gonna notice you in a good way.
Cody - 1/16/11 @ 7:04 PM
Yea we are visual lol but i hear women are very big on emotions though? Like they are attracted to people depending on the guys personality where as guys it seams as far as personality goes, we want someone nice to us and is interested in the same things. Though I am attracted to a few girls who I'm not physically attracted to at all... i could be wrong but it seams that guys put into priority looks and then personality and women do the opposite, viewing the personality and then the looks not saying that either are unimportant for both genders... thats just my perception though and has absolutely no scientific background lol
Cody - 1/16/11 @ 7:09 PM
and yea I know men who back down... Me and a friend were looking something up out of my bible at school and a girl came up and said that it is a waste of trees... my friend kinda was like "well, that's your opinion...I guess" and I felt shot down lol so I brought up every argument I could think of including that most bibles are printed on the thinnest paper making it less of a waste than every science book to ever call the theory of evolution scientific fact.
Ariel - 1/16/11 @ 7:10 PM
Umm, well, it's kind of difficult for me. like, i'm a teenager, obviously I'm still very shallow and that's something that I have to work on. But looks are still important to me. And there are a few of my good guy friends who because of their personality I find them attractive. It totally turns me off to guys though if they say they're christians but their actions don't match up. I have many friends who do that, it sickens me.
Ariel - 1/16/11 @ 7:15 PM
that's harsh. I hate it when people shoot down God.
Cody - 1/16/11 @ 7:16 PM
yea I would never say personality doesn't matter, like its still a huge part of complete attraction or like that feeling you get that you are in love after dating them a month... (guilty) Like looks aren't everything, I think they are just perceived as more for a guy than for a girl... idk that all confuses me lol
Ariel - 1/16/11 @ 7:17 PM
From what I've heard from my guy friends, it does seem that way
Cody - 1/16/11 @ 7:19 PM
@Ariel lol yea, I go to a school who's majority are atheists but I think it has strengthened me a lot
Cody - 1/16/11 @ 7:21 PM
idk, wording it that way just makes it sound shallow and I hate looking at it that way but its the only way to word it lol