Who recognizes the Sabbath on the Sabbath and not the Catholic altered and enforced day of Sunday?
I honor God, not the Sabbath.
Mark 2:27 Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.
I honour the resurrection of Jesus Christ which was on Sunday.
Are you sure it was on Sunday? I heard we are not sure of the date of his death, nor that it was exactly 2010 years ago. But I don't know. Or is the Sunday's resurrection written in the Bible?
Well, it was the first day of the week, which is Sunday (although some view Monday as the first day, which is why in some parts of the world, we also have Easter Monday) according to the Julian calendar, which is the present calendar, and also the calendar of the Romans at that time...I think???Back to the original question...I'll back the others up. I feel that with Jesus' death and resurrection, we are no longer under the "Seventh day Sabbath".
@Calendar questions. I believe the Jews use (or they used to use) a lunar calendar (based upon the moon). Maybe you can shed some light on this matter, werfromthelight? I know you know a lot of the Hebraic roots. :)
yea I have a guy I work with who doesn't work on saturdays, he says that it is the true sabbath and he went as far to say that I shouldn't even go to church on sunday because it glorifies some Sun God in whatever religeon our calander is from. So! After long thought I have come to the conclusion that time itself is of Satan. (Daniel if you have scripture against it let me know lol not joking) but like God made earth in 7 days, but it didn't matter which days they were at the time... and we take time and base our whole life around it, about as bad as money if you think about it... it distracts us from God such as telling us when is the best time to worship him, instead of as much as possible. it tells us whe to wake up and when to eat and what time is for work and what time is for fun... It goes fast when you want it to go slow and the day drags on when you want it to fly. The myans (or it might be aztecs...) even worshiped time, making it one of their Gods.... I'm making this a new thread lol I want opinions on this.
Catholics didn't have anything to do with worshiping on Sunday, the early church worshiped on sunday not as a sabbath day but in honor of the day Christ rose.
Christians are not under the authority of the Mosaic Law, which was for the nation of Israel. Christ came and fulfilled the Law and we have freedom in Him. We are still to follow God's moral law, but the various other stipulations of the Mosaic Law are not for the Church.Note that 9 of the 10 commandments are repeated in the New Testament. The only one that is left out is the 4th regarding the Sabbath.Paul preached to the disciples on Sunday, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight" (Acts 20:7).It is not that Sunday has replaced Saturday as the Sabbath. There is no longer any obligation to the Sabbath. The early church did set the precedent of worshiping together on Sunday in honor of the Resurrection though.Sunday is neither the Sabbath nor a day that the Church is obligated to meet on. Consider what Paul wrote to the Churches:Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days."Romans 14:5-6, "One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks."
^ Good words, Proskunetes.
Took the words right outta my mouth Proskunetes.
1 JOHN 5:3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.I reference that scripture to say this. It is not to earn our own righteousness or to base our salvation on our works that we keep God's commandments, but because of the love for God that exists in us. We honor this sabbath because to do so is not a burden but a blessing. To keep God's commandments represents our love and that we do so not to boast but because we genuinely and sincerely love God. Paul said to the church at Corinth," All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not." Does this mean because all things are permissable that we should go about doing all things even those without benefit? No. Its not a matter of can or can't, must or mustn't but why should we not honor the sabbath on its original day? Does it burden us to consecrate the original sabbath?
Mark 2:27 Then he said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath"
werfromthelight,We are to obey God's commandments, and you are right to assert that doing so is not a burden. However, you have missed the point that observing the Sabbath is NOT a commandment for the people of God today. If it was, I would gladly follow the commandment, but it is not. Therefore, no amount of encouraging faithfulness to God's commandments will convince me to observe the Sabbath out of obligation. It would be like trying to convince me that I'm obligated to follow NY Motorcycle laws, while driving around CA, or follow some 18th century British law even though I don't live in Britain nor is the law even in effect in Britain today.
In the bible it never said that Jesus changed the time to go to church from Sunday to Saturday. He would not disobey God and in God's Ten Commandment it says "THOU SHALT HONOR THE SABBATH DAY." Jesus too honored that commandment as should we and go to church on Saturday.
Anybody mind if I state my opinion? :)
Sure I would like to hear it, but then again you dont believe the bible to be 100% true so why even base your opinion on a book that has flaws?
"but then again you dont believe the bible to be 100% true so why even base your opinion on a book that has flaws?"--You misunderstand my position :) I believe that words are what is flawed, and cannot fully contain or portray truth. But that is a whole nother topic :P
--You misunderstand my position :) I believe that words are what is flawed, and cannot fully contain or portray truth. But that is a whole nother topic :PSo if you believe the words are flawed of the bible and do not fully contain the truth then that means you think the bible is corrupted and not true. So I am wondering where would you come up for an answer on this subject if the bible is not true? is there another book you refer to for truth?
Not just the words of the Bible. Words themselves. The letters and sounds we use to express ideas. Thats all words are, a form of communication...the tool I use in an attempt to get you to understand something the way I do.The truth is the understanding, not the words that bring about the understanding.