this really isn't hard to figure out. and lets do better this time, lets not point any fingers or talk bad about each other.

so this is why tattoos and body piercings are sinful:

- they are not of God.
- they are worldly.

you knew that, right? they're worldly because their origin is paganism, which was all set up by devil worshiping people (directly or indirectly, anything that isn't God is demonic). ok, so just because it's worldly, why is it sinful?

- because God doesn't want us to be worldly.

that's so easy to understand, right? right, but it's so hard to accept, because we're evil.

so here's the proof that God doesn't want us to be worldly at all, ever:

1 John 2:15-17 - Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof, but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever.


really, this website is one of the worst "christian" communities i've ever come across (i've only come across a few) - because you've all been shown the truth repeatedly, and every time your arguments to defend yourself are mere opinions, all personal, and never solid.

if you think i'm cruel for saying these things, and for speaking the truth this way - if you think i am not "speaking the truth in love" then you don't know at all what love is. people don't understand the most important things about love - that it's not a feeling. when Jesus rebuked peter for his worldly thinking, He said, "get away from me, satan!" - that's harsh, yes, but was Jesus being cruel? He was harsh, but was that wrong of Him? and when paul rebuked peter *in front of everyone* for his partiality, which i'm sure didn't bring smiles on anyone's faces - did paul go wrong? paul is the one who wrote 1 cor 13, about love, and yet he wasn't unwilling to rebuke peter, to pass judgment on the sinner in 1 cor 5, and to call out the false teachers by name. there are almost no christians at all on this site. and yes, i'm judging you who are of the church, as God commands, and you all condemn yourselves by rejecting that command.


ok, so back to tattoos. so you may be one of those silly people who say you want to glorify God with tattoos and maybe earrings or something, who knows. but at any rate, how do you expect to glorify God through worldly, pagan, self-mutilating expensive and irreversible practices?

do you think pagans think tattoos are ok? yes, they do. why do some christians, such as myself, condemn tattoos and piercings? because they're pagan. so the issue is, are you ok with pagamism or not? if you are, then you've made yourself a friend with the world, and therefore an enemy of God (james 4:4).

it's really that simple, about whether or not tattoos and piercings are sinful. it's this: is paganism sinful?

the answer's yes. if you think the answer is no, then you are a pagan, and not a christian.

unless you have scripture to defend paganism, don't bother defending tattoos. it doesn't matter if you think you've glorified God through your tattoos, because that used to be the pagan way of glorifying their gods, and you're rinsing and reusing it for the real God. that's horrible. a common way of thinking of how horrible that is is like if a guy is dating his 2nd girlfriend, and he takes the gifts he gave his first girlfriend back from her, and gives them to the new girlfriend. that's pathetic, right? God deserves so much better, but we offer him needles and ink and an outward display.

no one on earth glorifies God with tattoos, just as no one can glorify God through any paganism. i'm not even gonna start about how heavy of an insult it is to God to modify your body, especially permenantly... but if you want to check out my article on it, it's here: http://seekgodnow.org/index.php?topic=63.msg89#msg89